FALSE TRADITIONALISTS
ARCHBISOP PIERRE MARTIN NGO DINH THUC, CARDINAL SIRI, DIMOND BROS. & OTHERS

Because of the change in the Ordination Rites of Priests and Bishops in 1968 by the Vatican II Council, there exists an attempt to keep the Valid Ordinations going today, though many of the individuals involved are heretics. This is the last ditch effort to save the Catholic Church. Because of the Vietnam War, Pope Pius XII gave Cardinal Thuc (brother to the President of North Vietnam) the power to independently ordain Bishops as he deemed fit. He received these Holy Orders in 1957, before Pius XII died, and these Holy Orders were never revoked. Even so, there are arguments on both sides to this apparent Valid Line of Priests.

”Thuc's brother, Ngô Ðình Khôi, was buried alive because of his refusal to become a minister in the first communist government. Thuc's three other brothers, Ngô Đình Diệm, president of South Vietnam, Ngô Đình Nhu and Ngô Đình Cẩn, his close collaborators, were all assassinated. President Diệm was assassinated on November 1, 1963. Of all his siblings, only Thuc and Luyen escaped assassination. Luyen was serving as ambassador in London and Thuc had been summoned to Rome for the Second Vatican Council. After the Council (1962-1965), for political reasons and, later on, to evade execution by the communist government of Vietnam, Archbishop Thuc was not allowed to return to his duties at home and thus began his life in exile, initially in Rome, later on in Toulon, France.” - http://tripatlas.com/Ngo_Dinh_Thuc

Remember, you can validly administer the Sacrament of Baptism on your own with these rules, and stay home and pray the Rosary. Mass attendence is not mandatory if no options are given by the Church and going to the Novus Ordo service is the same as entering a pagan hall. This is the deplorable state of things at this time. It isn't difficult to see why the ”punishment from heaven is imminent.”

“Catholics need unquestionably valid sacraments to save their souls, and priests to provide these sacraments. Now, you need bishops to get priests. Catholics have a right to all these things by divine law. Since the modernist establishment cannot or will not provide them, the principles found in authoritative commentaries on church law allow Catholics to (…) regard the consecration of a traditional Catholic bishop, undertaken out of necessity, as an act which is indisputably both valid and licit.” - Announcement of Episcopal Consecration, St Gertrude the Great 1993

 

The “Old Catholic” rebellion has been usurped as well. It seems as Bishop Kozik (one of the Old Catholic Bishops) and his order await validation from the next Pope, the “one coming like a son of man.” Unfortunately, this renders them heretical as the son of man is the technical term for the Pope and his Bishops (who have the power to forgive sins on earth), so the one like a son of man is the final anti-Pope. His Church in Chicago bears the cornerstone laid by John Paul II so if he's claiming to be sedevacantist, he's contraditing himself. His heavy U.N. involvement is also suspect. The Mass at Our Lady of Frechoa in Chicago is the pre-Vatican II Rite, but it's unknown if the Sacraments are being administered correctly in the name of the Holy Ghost or Spiritum Sanctum (in Latin) since the priests like to hide. A flock of nuns cover for them. The nuns are very nice and their heart is with the Mother of God, but their Bishop is heretical in the Lord. The photos of Kozik with Ronald McDonald, the Masonic American Flag outside, the Masonic John Paul II stone- if Kozik is anti-Masonic Catholic, he is a pretty weak one. It is noteworthy that he speaks to “The Lord” in France and has apparition masses every month. This is their website: http://www.fraternitenotredame.org/

Here are other sources of information on the Thuc Lineage, the editor does not imply they are correct or incorrect, but it does seem like Our Lady is calling it quits after she allowed the Third Secret of Fátima to be released from Portugal on April 21, 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Martin_Ng%C3%B4_%C4%90%C3%ACnh_Th%E1%BB%A5c

http://tripatlas.com/Ngo_Dinh_Thuc

http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php?topic=3427625.15

http://sedevacantist.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=171

 

There is also the issue of 'Pope' Gregory XVI

Cardinal Siri is another Masonic double-agent/counter-revolutionary. Websites such as www.novusordowatch.com and www.thepopeinred.com defend Siri as a valid opponent of the Vatican II Revolution, while other traditional Catholic websites like traditioninaction.com expose him as just another Vatican II Cardinal who went right along with the Satanic Mass of the Novus Ordo Council.

The Fátima Movement presents the following items to help inform and educate and to make people ask questions about what truly happened after the death of Pope Pius XII from both sides of the Siri debate:

The 'Siri Thesis' destroyed: Photos emerge of Cardinal Siri performing the Satanic Novus Ordo Mass.

More photographs emerge on TIA (traditioninaction.com) showing Siri complicit in the Revolution.

Cardinal Siri saying the New Mass

”Some traditionalists pretend that Cardinal Giuseppe Siri, Archbishop of Genoa (1946-1987), never compromised with Progressivism. As a contribution to clarify this untruth, we present here some photos of the Cardinal saying the New Mass in different cities of his Archdiocese.

Above, he chose a simple altar turned to the people to say the Novus Ordo Mass at the church in Udine; below, first row, he concelebrates with John Paul II at an outdoor New Mass said in Genoa during the papal visit in 1985; second row, Card. Siri exchanges the embrace of peace with Msgr. Barabino during a New Mass said in Bobbio.” source: TIA (traditioninaction.com)

More photos emerge, proving a complete coup at Vatican II. Any apparent opposition was in 20/20 hindsight, contrived. Our Lady of Fátima's warnings should be heeded by anyone considering themselves Catholic.

 

”Cardinal Siri pledging allegiance to the Conciliar Popes

One variant of the sede-vacantists is the so-called 'sede-impeditist' current, which defends the thesis that Cardinal Giuseppe Siri was elected pope at the conclave of 1958 and took the name of Gregory XVII. According to this current, Siri was obliged to renounce the title and Angelo Roncalli was elected in his place. The Popes who ascended to the Roman Pontificate after this election would be nothing but usurpers. Hence the followers of this theory consider them anti-popes and treat them as such.

Afterwards, Siri would have lived his whole life in a terrible oppression and persecution by the 'anti-popes,' his enemies. The theory continues, pretending that at his death, Gregory XVII named his successor, whose name is not known to the public...

To show the lack of reality upon which this theory is based, we post here some photos showing how joyfully and amicably Card. Giuseppe Siri dealt with the conciliar Popes.

Above at left, we see him in close and friendly conversation with John XXIII, at one of the general meetings of the Italian Bishops; at right, he appears smiling in a shot with the Pope and Cardinal Lercaro. Below first row, Card. Siri and Paul VI exchange cordialities on two different occasions. Second row, Siri is on his knees pledging allegiance to John Paul I after his election; third row left, he pledges allegiance to John Paul II after his election; right, at the end of his life he was still very cordial when meeting the same Pope.

We believe that no serious person can consider these attitudes of Card. Siri as those of a prisoner kidnapped from his pontificate and deprived of it by force or some strong moral pressure. Instead, the photos show the normal activities of the Archbishop of Genoa, accepting without any difficulty the validity of the conciliar Popes as his normal superiors.” source: TIA (traditioninaction.com)

 

Evidence Novus Ordo Watch:

Former FBI Consultant Claims: U.S. Intel Documents show Cardinal Siri elected Pope Gregory XVII in 1958

Fr. Charles-Roux Testifies to Irregularities at 1958 Conclave

Cardinal Siri Speaks: In "The Rock" (1967), Siri makes veiled references to a Papacy in Eclipse

Cardinal Siri Speaks: In "Theologians & the Magisterium" (1980), Siri clarifies the authority of theologians

Findings, Arguments, Speculations on Conclaves of 1958 and 1963

Cardinal Siri Speaks: In "The Hour of Peter," Siri speaks of True and False Theologians, Drugs & Hallucinogens

St. Francis of Assisi Prophecy: "Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor, but a destroyer"

Cardinal Siri Speaks: In "Does Orthodoxy Exist," Siri speaks of orthodoxy & heresy

Cardinal Siri Speaks: In "The Infallible Ordinary Magisterium" Siri speaks of infallibility and the Faith

Cardinal Siri Speaks: In "No Salvation outside the Church" Siri speaks of this Dogma Modernists hate

Cardinal Siri mocks Vatican II's Doctrine of Collegiality

Cardinal Siri Speaks: In "The Election of the Roman Pontiff" Siri speaks of external forces trying to influence the conclave

1958 Article in Milan Newspaper mentions Smoke Signal Confusion at 1958 Conclave

Cardinal Siri Speaks: In "The Marginalization of the Church" Siri speaks of secular attacks on the Church

Fr. Kramer Prediction of 1955: Hindered Papal Election, by means of threats, would put Church through extended interregnum, immense suffering

Comments on the Eclipse of the Church and October 26, 1958

 

”Scortesco burned alive after publishing Vatican Guard information about the 1958 Papal Election which, got a little rough.”

 

Cardinal Siri Influenced by “a little brutality.” Siri: ”I am bound by the secret. The secret is horrible. I would have books to write about the different conclaves. Very serious things have taken place, but I can say nothing.” It seems the reason Cardinal Siri was bound by the secret is because he understood that the Rosicrucian Cardinals would not have been in the Conclave had they not rose up the ranks because of the sins of men who allowed it. Mankind in previous generations failed to supply the priesthood with good men and this was the result. Do you have any priests in your family? Who else can you blame this on? The reality is, as Siri knew, that this is the punishment allowed by God for the sins of the world. The purpose of this website is to give the information to those remaining Traditional Catholics to know how to overcome this in the minority position we find ourselves in today.”

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/siri_thesis.html

http://www.thepopeinred.com/

"The Hostage Pope" Gregory XVII, proven to be another “concilliar” agent by the photographs above.


Although betrayed by His Cardinals beginning on the day of His Divine Election, October 26, 1958 A.D., put under constant surveillance, a documented death-threat, and having absolutely no temporal arm to turn to for help- Pope Gregory XVII, by a near miraculous occurrence shortly before His "unforeseen" death on May 2, 1989 A.D., did perform the proper actions to carry on the True Hierarchy (Petrine Mission) of the True Church.

Pope Gregory XVII although under a constant, fatiguing (strategically inflicted) Gethsemane by Satan's masons coupled with the more painful heartbreaking public abandonment by His Own (Cardinals) is shown in a rare (published) photo openly confronting the fraud Wojtyla:

"Siri" repudiated the acts of Anti-Pope John Paul II as an "idolatry of apostolic works." (Gary MacEonin, The Inner Elite, pg.234)

"I am the most relentless enemy of communism because it destroys man, destroys the economy, destroys everything. ... I remember going to Pius XII once, and I saw on his desk, otherwise perfectly empty, two books: one was on collegiality. He asked me what I thought about it: 'Holiness, throw it out. I read it and there is nothing good in it.' ... And there are those who define Rahner as 'the number one theologian.' But I smell errors from far away; it is a matter of sniffing." -"Cardinal Siri" (A.K.A. Pope Gregory XVII) *30 Days Magazine Jan 17, 1985 A.D.)

*Note: during this interview with the novus ordo sect run 30 Days Magazine, "Siri" (the documented Hostage Pope) asked the interviewer Stefano M. Paci to switch off his tape recorder at certain points during the interview. The interview/article was not released publically (by the V-2 sect media outlet, 30 Days) until after His Holiness' "untimely" death on May 2, 1989 A.D. -ED

 

SOME INFORMATION REGARDING VATICANCATHOLIC.COM (MOST HOLY FAMILY MONASTERY)

REGARDING THE HERESIES OF THE DIMOND BROTHERS FROM MOST HOLY FAMILY MONASTERY:

Fátimamovement Statement Regarding The Motivations of Most Holy Family Monastery:

This was recently copied off of vaticancatholic.com's e-exchanges webpage to illustrate that even they are part of the Apostasy. As shocking as that may sound, this is proof:

 

Hello Brothers Dimond.

I have… questions. One might sound silly but please help me with the answer.

1. When i pray I'm starting to think about the difference between spirit and Ghost which is the proper term to use when praying Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost?

2. On your site regarding How to pray the Rosary, on the pdf file you have a picture of a beautiful rosary i would like to see how i can obtain or purchase one…?

God Bless you…
Joaquin Ruiz

MHFM: Thanks for the e-mail.  1.  Both terms are acceptable.  2.  We don’t think one should worry about what the Rosary looks like.  As long as one has a traditional rosary and tries to pray it well, that’s what matters.” 

Link to that post here on vaticancatholic.com's E-Exchanges.

Fátimamovement Statement:

This shocking denial of the necessity of the Holy Ghost in baptism is specifically why our website is so popular with Traditional Catholics. It goes to show you that you can't trust anyone anymore, and this is why Fátimamovement.com decided to push so hard to bring this misinformation to light. Amazingly, Brother Peter Dimond and Brother Michael Dimond deny Catholic Dogma that the Holy Ghost is required. This little tidbit of information is actually in the book of Catholic Dogma, that WE PURCHASED FROM THEM! Take a look:

MORE EVIDENCE FROM DENZINGER'S 1957 “THE SOURCES OF CATHOLIC DOGMA”

Alexander III, 1159-1181

Certainly if anyone immerses a child in water three times in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen, and he does not say: “I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, Amen,” the child is not baptized. Let those concerning whom there is a doubt, whether or not they have been baptized, be baptized after these words have first been uttered: “If you are baptized I do not baptize you, if you are not yet baptized, I baptize you, etc.”

Romans 2:24: For the name of God through you is blasphemed among the Gentiles, as it is written. 

Luke 12:10: but to him that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven.

 

Not only do they deny the information the necessity of the Holy Ghost, they actually are enabling the Advent 2011 change to the Liturgy again. You are seeing the transformation in real time, just like they did in 1944 when the Vatican eliminated the name of the Holy Ghost from the Sacraments, only this time, it is from Holy Spirit to just the pagan “Spirit.” Not even a peep of concern from the heretics at Most Holy Family Monastery. There is so much teaching on the difference between the Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit, but you must do some research. We did here: The Secret of the Priesthood.

While we're at it, here is Most Holy Family Monastery's Youtube Channel, endorsing the Jewish Jesus of David who they say is coming, just like the Protestants. Here is a screenshot of their Youtube Channel with one of their videos teaching viewers that Moses talked to God. Moses did not talk to God, Moses was a Freemason and was talking to the “spirit,” via a burning bush-fire.

 

This is more proof why we have to constantly battle with false traditionalists who cleverly tell you all about the deception of Vatican II, all about Masonry, all about the invalid Mass, but won't tell you why. This is exactly why we do what we do and show you the actual books these Monks have, so you can see the sources and reasons with your own eyes. You can buy these books yourself, find them in the archives of a university, whatever you want to do. Here is the overwhelming evidence that “the lord,” the false god created by Freemasonry, is a lie: 666 and the Lord's Prayer; Why Our Lady Replaces “their lord” in the Catholic Trinity.

Also, any Catholic seeing their Youtube Channel's background image may notice that the Jewish David's Jesus they are deceiving their readers into accepting is flashing a Satanic hand sign. That's no coincidence.

For your general knowledge, when we use MHFM's footage and documentation, we edit their material so their heresies do not spread. We like to use the heretic's energy against them and their videos are informative. It's only that they never reveal what the game is about- they keep their readers in the dark, purposely. Don't say we never did anything for you!

At the Fátima Movement, we do our best to present all the evidence we know to exist. Regardless of your position on Siri, please remember the Keys to Heaven above all:

Third Secret of Fatima - The Three Keys to Heaven are the unpreserved NAMES OF GOD.

 

The Kennedy Files: Freemason or Catholic? You decide.

November 22, 2013 marks the 50th anniversary of the murder of the only apparent “Catholic” U.S. President, John F. Kennedy, for his “crime” of speaking out against secret societies and their ruthless conspiracy. His public murder happened in front of a Masonic monument in Dallas and still to this day, “no one knows nothing.” But among some Freemasons such the initiate on the right, the assasination still remains an inside joke.

Above left: The “Secret” Service stands down in Dallas. Above right: Kennedy separates himself from Paul VI and “other ecclesiastical authorities.” Kennedy received much criticism from Protestant, Lord-worshipping Freemasons for refusing to attend some Protestant debates during the 1960 Presidential race. As an apparent Catholic, it seemed that he tried to adhere to Catholic policy of not intermingling with cursed non-Catholics (ecclesiatical Freemasons), and eventually paid the ultimate price for it.

During the Kennedy administration, an apparent attempt was made to gain back control of the money-printing from the Jewish Federal Reserve mafia. Over the last several years, it has been circulating on the internet that Kennedy was able to have roughly $4 billion in U.S. Dollars Notes printed (not Federal Reserve 'Notes'), but this did not sit well with the Freemasons who derive much of their power from their ability to control the purse-strings.

But on the contrary there are very compelling reasons that prove the Kennedys to be just another powerful Masonic family in a fashion similar to “Catholic” Pat Buchanan who is actually a member of the Masonic Order of the Knights of Malta (initiated 1987) and worked for Bohemian Grove attendees Richard Nixon and Dr. Henry Kissinger. After JFK's death, Jackie Kennedy married Greek Billionaire Aristotle Onasis and lived it up until her death. The jury is still out on this one, but time will tell. It always does.

”On November 28, 1961, President Kennedy halted sales of silver by the Treasury Department. Increasing demand for silver as an industrial metal had led to an increase in the market price of silver above the United States government's fixed price. This led to a decline in the government's excess silver reserves by over 80% during 1961. President Kennedy also called upon Congress to phase out silver certificates in favor of Federal Reserve notes.[1][2]

President Kennedy repeated his calls for Congress to act on several occasions, including his 1963 Economic Report, where he wrote:[3]

”I again urge a revision in our silver policy to reflect the status of silver as a metal for which there is an expanding industrial demand. Except for its use in coins, silver serves no useful monetary function.

In 1961, at my direction, sales of silver were suspended by the Secretary of the Treasury. As further steps, I recommend repeal of those Acts that oblige the Treasury to support the price of silver; and repeal of the special 50-percent tax on transfers of interest in silver and authorization for the Federal Reserve System to issue notes in denominations of $1, so as to make possible the gradual withdrawal of silver certificates from circulation and the use of the silver thus released for coinage purposes. I urge the Congress to take prompt action on these recommended changes.” - JFK's 1963 Economic Report”

source: Wikipedia: Executive Order 11110

the “put a man on the moon” U.S. President John F. Kennedy and David O. McKay (who was president of the Mormon sect, founded by Freemason John Smith)John F. Kennedy photographed in another Masonic handshake with Patrick J Mellody, Lackawanna County Democratic chairman. Looking on from left, Edward Zipay, Santo Pacoe and Edward Popil

Above left: the “put a man on the moon” U.S. President John F. Kennedy and David O. McKay (who was president of the Mormon sect, founded by Freemason John Smith). Above right: John F. Kennedy photographed in another Masonic handshake with Patrick J Mellody, Lackawanna County Democratic chairman. Looking on from left, Edward Zipay, Santo Pacoe and Edward Popil. source: Times-Tribune Archives September 25, 1963.

 


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